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I agreed I thought he deserved a look this time around. I will say ..

I loved Elway thought his playing and executive career until the post Super Bowl decline and enduring suckitude due to a slew of bad FO decisions. I blame him far more than I do VJ and Vic.

The bloom is off the Elway 🌹. I hate to believe what Flores has said -- and the Broncos are denying -- but something is rotten in Denmark (Denver). Elway, the trustees, the feuding Bowlen's.

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Posted: 02/03/2022 at 03:59AM

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I agreed I thought he deserved a look this time around. I will say .. -- WinningLeadership 02/03/2022 03:59AM

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