King, Collier, Bey, and others all gave English props for helping develop them as players. Collier in particular went from being a non-factor in his first 3 years to a decent player as a senior. mOst of all, he seems to have been able to fire up players, something Grier and Boyle don't seem able to do. And this team still has major holes in recruiting unless the plan is just play wings in every position. So, in my mind, losing the guy that fires up the team leaves a very big hole..